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John S's avatar

The problem is real exposure. Let's assume a toilet-goer is highly likely to purchase a nice Toto as long as they have a decent first experience.

Where are they going to have said experience? Traveling? Not many people go to Japan. I suppose this could happen via slow osmosis, but I doubt it. A friend's house? The circle is pretty small. A business? Most likely! However, a lot of businesses are (rightly) skeptical about putting a toilet like that in, because of 1) cost if it breaks 2) making customers uncomfortable because of confusion trying to figure it out 3) difficulty adjusting to what a bidet feels like. Special emphasis on 2. It's not like you can go in there and show every customer; and we all know that customers are idiots and even a very detailed sign explaining will be ignored in horrendous ways.

So we are stuck at the beginning. Practically zero practical exposure leads to practically zero interest. The only way around this is presumably some form of marketing, making it seem exciting enough that a zero-experience consumer will order one. That has its own challenges, the most obvious being: people virtually never replace their toilet unless they have to, and in that case they need a new one fast. And building your own home/planned renovation? Sadly, toilets tend to be very low on the list of decisions to be made. I know this is all broadly true judging by my time working in a hardware store adjacent to the toilet selling area. Add on to that, the fact that most consumers feel like they need a plumber to install one, and plumbers are incredibly expensive? The current situation explains itself.

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Shaggy Snodgrass's avatar

Hi. Among other jobs, I'm a small-time plumber in the USA.

The biggest problem I see with this device is the need for electrical service to it; if I'm not mistaken, Japan uses a different electrical voltage than the US does (100 volts to the US 110-120), which requires plug adapters for long-term use. Also a new outlet (GFCI) would need to be installed and wired to on a separate circuit from bathroom main power (due to additional "Amp draw" from the 100- 110v adaptation). This raises the expense of installing one in a private home exponentially.

The solution is probably 9v/12v battery power; easy to change and lit only at point of use (maybe a pressure switch on the seat?). Also the device needs to function at a basic level (ie, flush) if the battery/ies are dead. Manual operation alongside would cover that. Some water-supplies would have to be upgraded too; to supply both tank and bidet functions.

Just some thing for you (and Toto) to consider. You got a sub, boss. Nice to meet ya!

-Shags,

Cleveland, OH US

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